Gitmo and Abu Ghraib; Who is Really Responsible?

When Prissy used to work in a maximum security institution for juvenile offenders, the little darlings were not always on their best behavior. At times, they were enough as Granny likes to say, "to make a Preacher cuss."

Prissy often found the male youth getting caught up in an "antler clash" with the male corrections officers. Prissy would remind them they were incarcerated because they could not follow rules...

Because Prissy and the boys didn't run into the "antler clash" - she was firm but fair... She only had to restrain a youth once, in three years while working in institutional security. He cooperated when he saw that it was Prissy; there wasn't much manliness in fighting the smallest security officer in state juvenile corrections....thankfully.

Prissy found communication solved the problems 99% of the time, even in youth who were prone to violent outbursts. The other 1% didn't need beaten, they needed restrained until they were willing to cooperate and could go back into the general population. They always eventually did. For the most part, these kids were more lazy than crazy. True crazies shouldn't be in prison anyway; they should be in a mental institution.

Usually, if we had an out of control youth, Prissy got out of the way and began writing, while her co-workers wrestled him to the ground. This worked out well for all concerned.

Her co-workers didn't like paperwork, Prissy was witnessing the event (important in these settings) and documentation was complete and accurate. This is the way we liked to handle such events.

The youth would be placed in four-point restraints, so he could not hurt himself. He would be watched carefully; checked every fifteen minutes or less.

Then, it was Prissy's turn again. She would talk to this youth, assess what had set him off and decide how we could work out this situation - so he could get out of the four-point restraints. We had strict time limits for these things too.

Interesting Prissy, but where are you going with this? Well, this little story about daily prison details leads us to the jail/justice system everybody is talking about; Guantanamo Bay , Cuba and Abu Ghraib, Iraq.

Prissy thinks this disgrace to the United States of America is unconscionable. She has never abused any prisoner, mentally or physically under her authority; not even the ones I could barely stand to look at. (Like the 13 year old boy who had raped his 3 and 4 year-old sisters)NOTE: Important to point out, the ones Prissy worked with had been tried and sentenced in a court of law....

The tone is set at the top...especially when it comes to "procedure". That is all the suits ever have to do is to tweak policy, so they do it often. To say it was "a few bad apples" in the Gitmo/Abu Ghraib incidents is absurd...and the mentality of those willing to perform such actions upon naked people in handcuffs and leg restraints? Well, let's just say they didn't put any "creative thinkers" on guard duty there. Somebody helped them to know those "procedures" which were devised "soften up" prisoners.

It is important to note that 70-80% of the Prisoners held in Iraq were innocent; by all main stream media and even the military's own reports. They were simply caught up in the sweep.

She has no sympathy for the depraved persons who abused other human beings under their authority. Those who thought up these methods (and those memos) must be called to the carpet and asked why they even think torture works. Most, if not all military and university studies have show otherwise.

Prissy sure wouldn't have signed her name on this article....not even her pen name.... Alleged Guantanamo Abuse Did Not Rise to Level of 'Inhumane' http://www.defenselink.mil/news/Jul2005/20050713_2053.html

Veterans for Common Sense...Geez does Dubya EVER listen to the people?-PP Veterans for Common Sense (VCS), a nonpartisan veterans' organization with 12,000 members, called for a commission to investigate torture allegations today, in response to the Pentagon refusal to release photos and videos from Abu Ghraib and Guantanamo Bay, the group said in a release Monday.http://rawstory.com/news/2005/2000_vets_call_for_release_of_more_Abu_Ghraib_p_0725.html

http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1000990590 Pentagon Blocks Release of Abu Ghraib Images: Here's Why -An excerpt: Donald Rumsfeld told Congress last year, after viewing a large cache of unreleased images: "I mean, I looked at them last night, and they're hard to believe. They show acts "that can only be described as blatantly sadistic, cruel and inhumane," he added.A Republican Senator suggested the same day they contained scenes of "rape and murder". No wonder Rumsfeld commented then, "If these are released to the public, obviously it's going to make matters worse."

http://www.opednews.com/hartmann_052905_galloway_interview.htm Thom Hartmann: 'Interview with British MP George Galloway' Excerpt from interview regarding torture and other mutual country interests of sane people:

People are being taken, in some cases from third countries. One of the British citizens, for example, was taken from the Gambia. Others have been taken from Pakistan. Others still from, from Afghanistan. They're taken by force, drugs forcibly injected into them, hooded, chained, and taken to a cage in the tropics where by all accounts they're being kept in conditions that you wouldn't keep a dog in in your country or mine. And if you did, you'd be, you'd be had up for cruelty by the authorities.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,2763,1250526,00.html From the UK Guardian-US military police raid Iraqi detention centre to stop abuse of prisoners Confusion over armed soldiers' intervention . A very ugly excerpt:

A bodyguard for the head of criminal intelligence, Hussein Kamal, admitted that the beatings had taken place. Nashwan Ali - who said his nickname was Big Man - said: A US MP asked me this morning what police division I was in. I said I was in criminal intelligence. "The American asked me why we had beaten the prisoners. I said we beat the prisoners because they are all bad people. But I told him we didn't strip them naked, photograph them or f**k them like you did."

http://www.livejournal.com/~mparent7777/1366676.html Defying Bush, GOP seeks 'torture' limits GOP Senators Push Detainee Treatment Rules. Prissy says you shall have to do better than this if you wish to stay in politics...

http://reports.iraqbodycount.org/a_dossier_of_civilian_casualties_2003-2005.pdf This report claims that 38% of civilian casualties are caused by occupation forces

http://peopleforchange.blogspot.com/2005/05/gitmo-detainees-say-they-were-sold.html Gitmo Detainees Say They Were Sold . Well.... that's certainly one way to fill a prison...next time let's try charges and a trial first...GREAT IDEA... We could even use the legal process already on the books! - PP

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050726/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq;_ylt=AkUYcTYVAtD3cOggN_eayvKs0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTA3b3JuZGZhBHNlYwM3MjE Iraq Constitution May Erode Women's Rights....Nice Job, glad to see freedoms on the march for women too. Ironic that women had more rights under Saddam ....

http://news.yahoo.com/s/latimests/20050725/ts_latimes/shotstotheheartofiraq;_ylt=AoOH3RMKPnV_Row.U40lpR2s0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTA3b2NibDltBHNlYwM3MTY-Shots to the Heart of Iraq .

More About Bush Administration Members Sweetheart Deals

http://www.newcriminologist.co.uk/news.asp?id=-660038393 President Bush's brother Jeb Bush in serious trouble- An excerpt:

The President's brother is in serious trouble. It has been discovered that Florida's Medicaid Program has been defrauding the federal government for over 30 years with their Medicaid Program. 100% of the federal funding Florida received under Medicaid since 1974 has been illegal as Florida's State Created Medicaid Forms and Applications have never complied with federal law.

http://www.prleap.com/pr/10742/ TMA International Trusts Challenges the American Hospital Association To Come Out and Prove Their Legal Position and Stop Using the “Spin Machine” to try and Deflect their Criminal Fraud.

http://www.newcriminologist.co.uk/news.asp?id=2115310961 TMAIT is directly attacking the Frist family HCA. The TMAIT is expected to have a direct impact on the 2008 presidential bid. Frist is currently the front runner for president, and the US press refuses to publish what is widely known: the Frist family are the biggest corporate criminals in America. They have paid more criminal fines than Enron. Indeed, both Enron and Frists were the principle backers of George Bush. Now, the Frist family is being sued for 100 times the $2 Billion they already admitted to.

http://rawstory.com/news/2005/Press_hammers_White_House_on_leak_again_Question_on_trea_0725.html Press hammers White House on leak, again; Question on 'treason'. Hmmm....using the "T" word now...

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